Here’s the thing. It is a very serious problem when women, feminists, radfems, the media, etc., or a combination of any of the above use the phrase, “the gender they were assigned at birth.” Why? because it is incorrect wording that, when used repeatedly gains notability and with more use, it gains credibility as people see it as a true statement when, honestly, it is not. Gender is not something that is “assigned” to infants at birth. It’s not a seat assignment that someone gives you when they look between your legs and either see a vulva or a penis. That would be sex. Once again, people are confusing sex with gender.
Nothing is “assigned” to anyone at birth. Sex is determined at birth when the person delivering the baby sees its genitals and declares, “It’s a girl/boy!”; and before some joker wants to come in screaming about intersex people, that is a red herring and we all know it. Intersex people are not trans are not intersex people. Stop trying to muddy the waters. The above determination of sex is not gender being assigned to that child like it is a homework assignment or something. Determination of a child’s sex at birth is basic biology 101 and it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with gender.
The sooner people can stop confusing sex with gender the better; and the sooner people can stop using the phrase, “gender assigned at birth,” the better because then we can all start discussing what gender really is and how harmful it is to women.
Gender is a social construct; and it arrives through socialization. True, this socialization may start just after birth when the child’s parents or the nurses at the hospital or who ever decides to dress little boys in blue and little girls in pink so that people know what sex the child is; because in our society, sex is a class and there is a clear hierarchy, with women being on the bottom and men on the top. The sooner the little boys and little girls are discovered and differentiated, the clearer their future will be to the people around them. But that is not the same thing as being “assigned a gender” and having that child (or adult) suddenly and magically “know” what it is like to be a girl or a boy (or a woman or man).
Gender through socialization happens over a period of time; and this is what women mean when they speak about having shared experiences that are different from men who are born and raised boys then decide later that they wish to declare themselves to be women. When we say this, we are not saying that we all share the same upbringing. Obviously, women of color have different experiences than white women, women brought up in a poor household have different experiences than women brought up in wealthy households, etc.; but the fact that we were all born as little girls and then raised in this patriarchal society is our shared experience.
This next part is hard to describe. I honestly thought it was obvious until I started seeing so many male transgenders (aka “MtFs,” which is a misnomer, since males cannot become females) talk about how they know what it was like to be raised as girls, since they “felt” like girls. This was mind boggling to me and reeked of their own male privilege. How arrogant of men to sit there, as the oppressive class, and dictate to women, the oppressed class, what it is like to be women! I couldn’t believe what I was seeing and reading.
As women, we all know what it is like to be born and raised as little girls in this society. It is something that, unless you are a woman, is difficult to describe or understand; and sometimes, the socialization of women is so complete, some women don’t even see it. This is why so many women in today’s “feminism” are so pro-male, why they are ok with so many men taking over feminism, why they are ok with men in the government restricting women’s access to healthcare, and why they are ok with men who role play as women co-opt our experiences, our words, even our very private spaces. We women are socialized or conditioned to put men first, always. Men have no idea what it is like to be conditioned to apologize before asking a question, or apologize for asserting yourself and creating boundaries, or to take up as little space as possible. These are just some of the things women are taught since birth; and I don’t mean taught like consciously in school, I mean a deep subconscious conditioning beginning from infancy and continuing into adulthood.
Side note: before a male transgender tries to speak up about how he does know about those things because he is trans or about how women don’t know about this, that, or the other because they are “cis,” try stopping for a moment and actually listening to a woman instead of making this about you. That is what men do.
Now see, any of the transgenders who actually kept reading my post instead of just stopping after the first paragraph when I said that sex is not gender, just stopped reading. It is impossible for men to magically know what it is like to be a woman, just as it is impossible for women to let go of all of their lifetime of socialization and know what it is like to be a man. Sure, I get treated differently sometimes when someone thinks I am a man vs. when they realize I am a woman, but this isn’t the same as being born a boy and raised as male with all the privilege that goes along with it in a society dominated by the male class.
But male transgenders actually believe that putting on a dress and/or taking some hormones negates everything they have been taught while living as boys and men and they suddenly “know” what it is like to be women. Forget all of the male privilege that has been shoved down their throats for years, they don’t see that that is what makes them think they are allowed to have access to everything and that if they say something is true, then god damnit, it’s true.
And there is where we come to it: how gender harms women. Let me relate a story really quickly. I was reading a blog post of a male trans on Tumblr. This guy was, as he put it, “presenting in women’s clothes” while out with some friends bar hopping. They decided to go to a mostly straight bar in a mostly gay neighborhood and while he was there, he took off his top (he was wearing something leather underneath) and security told him to put it back on.
The interesting thing at this point of the blog is that the man honestly thought he was passing as a woman. He mentioned in his blog how he wasn’t sure if or how security could make any determination that he was trans, so he didn’t think it was about him being trans at that point. He posted a picture of himself at the bar that night and there is no question in anyone’s mind but his own that he is a man dressed in what society has deemed “women’s” clothing.
Can you imagine? Can you imagine a delusion so powerful that what you see in the mirror is the complete opposite of what the rest of the world sees, but you are so determined in your delusion that you dare anyone to contradict you? It’s like people with an eating disorder who look in the mirror and see a very fat person staring back at them but the rest of the world sees the reality: an unbelievably, unhealthy skinny person who is killing themselves. This is how some of these male trans are. In their delusion, they look in the mirror and see a beautiful feminine woman, while the rest of the world sees the reality of what is actually there: a man in what society deems as “women’s” clothing.
Anyway, I digress. Nearing the end of the evening, he decides to use the bathroom before heading home. Now, this bar did everything right: they had a women’s bathroom, a men’s bathroom, and a unisex bathroom. This is the best compromise for male and female transgenders who feel they should not have to use the bathrooms of their own sex out of fear, while also allowing the women in the establishment the privacy and respect they should be given, as well as keeping female transgenders safe from being attacked in the men’s bathroom.
But instead of using the unisex bathroom, this person who was, clearly, a man, decided it was his right to use the women’s bathroom; and when he did so, he was confronted (rightfully) by security. He held his ground and he sat down on the floor of the women’s bathroom and called the police, claiming that he feared for his life. The police were confused as to (a) why he called them and (b) why he was in the women’s restroom. He asked to be escorted out of the bar safely and they did just that. He is currently in the process of making complaints to any lawyer or legal entity he can in an effort to “change” things at this bar, because the compromise of a unisex bathroom wasn’t enough for this guy. He “said” he was a woman so that should be good enough for the rest of the world and damn any woman who wants any kind of privacy or safety of their own.
When you make laws based on something as ambiguous as gender and the law makes it clear that if someone states they are such&such, then they must be recognized as such&such, regardless of the reality of the situation, you open the door to all sorts of privacy and safety issues for women. A male transgender who is, by definition, pre-op and most likely not living as a woman full time should never be allowed into women’s private spaces; but because sex has been overlooked for the sake of gender, women are, yet again, getting thrown under the bus for the sake of men.
If this man had actually be raised as a girl and socialized to live as a woman, he would never have inserted himself into another person’s space like that and then demanded that he be allowed to stay or else he would sue. If he had actually been a woman or even if he had been someone who respected women, he would have known how nervous and uncomfortable women would be in an enclosed private space like that with a male-bodied person and he would have used the unisex bathroom.
For men like this, it is all or nothing. he either gets his way every single time or else people are being transphobic and must be sued or arrested or, if they are radfems, they should be beaten, raped, or killed for their horrible offense of knowing, seeing, the truth.
Sex is not gender, ladies and gentlemen. Sex is a class and women are at the bottom of that class, dominated by men in a patriarchal society that will always put men first. Gender is a social construct that is taught to all of us through socialization and it re-enforces sex stereotypes in an effort to keep the female class on the bottom of the heap.
My hope is that more women stop choking on the kool-aid these men are shoving down their throats and wake up to see that we are the equivalent of the human batteries in the Matrix. We are sold a bill of goods from the moment we hit this world and waking up out of that coma is not only hard, for some women it is almost impossible. But more and more of us are waking up everyday and realizing that sex matters. Our sex matters; and giving up our rights for the sake of men is not something we should be blindly accepting, it is something we should be fighting against tooth and fucking nail.
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Wow. That is so far and away the most concise, erudite , breakdown of the issue I’ve read so far!
THANKYOU so much!
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Biological males are not female. They are not women. They were never girls. They never will be women. Biological males are men and boys.
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Thanks for reading; and for your comment and re-bog.
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The ubiquitous socialization of femininity is so absolute. I remember my mother trying to protect me as a teen by telling me not to wear makeup, but I would sneak into the bathroom before school and slather it all over my face anyway. I used to keep fashion magazines in my closet, and a log of everything I wore to school. Such a waste of girls’ energy.
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I remember how excited I as when it was FINALLY time for me to start shaving my legs.
If you bring these things up now (make-up and shaving), most women will tell you that they don’t do these things for men, they do them for themselves. Our conditioning and socialization are -that- complete.
Edited to add: a lot of women even consider not shaving (leg hair, armpit hair, even pubic hair) to be unclean or unhygienic, but men not shaving is considered natural.
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I had a substitute biology teacher back in high school take the time to try and explain one sex difference as it influenced her life. She told us how she (and every other female) already had all the eggs they were ever going to have. This single fact made a big difference in how she thought about a lot of topics from diet to personal risk. Every potential child is already sharing everything she is experiencing.
I scoffed at the time and made an analogy between a factory for males and a warehouse for females, both being vulnerable and worthy of protection. Over the years I think I’ve come to understand a bit about what she was trying to get across. When I’m risking my personal safety I selfishly consider only the risk to myself, if I live then testicles can heal and the sperm are usually just a worthless waste product anyway. This teacher (and females who agree with her) is analyzing the risk to all of her future generations. This one biological difference is a huge influence in our lives and it isn’t the only one.
You took the high road in the second part of your post and didn’t name the individual involved. Googling a couple of details let me find the original easily enough and the story is exactly as you described it. This person “retreated back into the bathroom” and stayed for over twenty minutes. I hope the unisex bathroom was enough for everybody who needed to go while this altercation took place.
I’m keeping a copy of this story for the time when my progressive city tries to pass well intended but dangerous laws. Right now the move is to provide a unisex option (a single-seater as we used to say in the days of outhouses) in every public place and not change the accommodation laws.
My Google search also introduced me to the “trans enough” movement, that was eye-opening. Thanks once again for continuing my education on these subjects.
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It’s an interesting analogy for sure; and one I had never really considered either. Sometimes the differences are vast and sometimes sneaky, but I feel that as long as we keep a firm grasp of biology vs. socially constructed, we can protect all vulnerable people while avoiding the problem of protecting one at the expense of the other.
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I read that blog entry! This person also thinks that identifying as a woman also means you aren’t “male bodied.”
We can’t identify our way out of biology and socialization. If we could, I’d be a half-elf. I can be a half-elf if I want to because biology isn’t destiny, rightright? I can be a black belt in karate! And a doctor! Doctors are made, not born, don’t you know? I’m going to make myself a doctor. I will present as a doctor too. White coat, stethoscope, prescription pad, tongue depressors…. Then I could sue a hospital for not hiring me for not being a “real” doctor.
I’m a half-elf doctor who’s a black belt in karate and I best be respected as such. You cis-doctors better check your privilege, like being able to use an operating room without fear of arrest; being able to access doctor-exclusive conferences; not having to convince/remind everyone of your preference of being called “Doctor.”
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That’s actually a pretty funny analogy; especially when you talk about “presenting” as a doctor just as these male transgenders “present” as “women.” In their minds, the clothes and the make-up are it. There is nothing else about being a woman that is real to them other than the clothes and make-up.
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Posted a quote from this blog, and got quite a reaction! 🙂
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Excellent post. I find it so insulting that anything about womanhood that these men can appropriate they will, anything they can’t (like girlhood) they dismiss as irrelevant and worthless. It is a continual process of moving the goal posts in order to get what they want. This includes the nonsense that somehow male genitalia is now female because the person it is attached to identifies as a woman. I think a lot of them revel in their ‘special’ status and that, if it were even possible, would be horrified by the prospect of magically actually becoming real women.
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This is a *brilliant* piece. So very well said. Truth, sister.
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When I was at uni I came accross the eggs thing too. It was used to try and explain why women should take less risks. Thing is the overies are well protected, the testicles arnt. And if you die in wont matter anyway, you still carnt reproduce. Women are less risk taking in other areas besides ones where there overies are in danger. Its more to do with sexism ensuring a mistake for a woman isnt just an individual mistake. Its a mistake down to her sex, if its a physical mistake and she gets hurt. Then its her own fault for trying something thats best left to the men. If its a bad decision on something else, then it translates to women are bad decision makers. In childhood girls learn not to take risks because their mistakes arnt as tolerated. Also most women will avoid conflict simply bc they arnt always as strong as men. As far as diet and eggs go, most girls who starve themselves to stay thin arnt think ing about their eggs.
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Thanks a lot
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They have done a good job so far of confusing the language to the point where people completely confuse sex with gender and cannot seem to differentiate between the two. I agree on your last point about them not really wanting to become actual women. If they did, wouldn’t more of them go through the irreversible surgeries?
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I can see how an idea like this one, perhaps with a grain of truth in it, can be twisted to exploit women; especially if women can be convinced that the whole package is true. As an outsider I have to listen and believe that the person communicating is honestly trying to convey the truth as they know it. I already realize that truth is complicated.
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Great essay. Unfortunately, our biggest challenge is that all our western governments allowed a change of sex on legal documents almost 20 years ago, and they did this with no backing from the scientific community and no consideration for women’s rights. One of these odd instances in society way too fast, an made a grave mistake.
I am a gender atheist and despise both extreme presentations.
It’s always a real hard battle to reverse landmark gov decisions. I am not confident that we an undo this one. Compounding the problem are the messed up people who require compliance to their perceived gender even without official gov status.
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Well, it started with the misnomer, female to male or male to female, indicating that one could change one’s sex, when that is impossible. Then it continued to where the government allowed people to change their sex on legal documents and I have seen many women get around being able to marry another women simply by making that change. The whole thing is a fucking mess, imo because so many people are confused about the biology of it all. It’s madness.
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A very sad madness, for everyone involved. I think the science/biology of our bodies and reproductive organs is our strong stance, and as long as we push for science and not dogma, there may be a chance of reversing this government policy. We need to find more big name biologists who are willing to butt heads with the big name pharma-psychologists out there pushing this stuff. Science vs Psychology, could be a mighty battle. In my peer groups, people still use the word gender to mean biological sex, that is what I’m trying to distinguish first among my peers, but even that is a hard sell. 😦
This topic is the first topic in 25 years of internet which keeps me coming back to read blogs. It’s just so absent from serious newspapers… and I can’t stand even a glance at a religious paper. The science must prevail to mainstream media.
How to make this happen???
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Even talking about this is dangerous. I have been labeled as “hostile,” “transphobic,” and “hateful” for even broaching the topic in the first place. I’ve also had several men, a few women, and a teenage girl tell me how I know nothing of “trans women” or transgenderism because of this post. The amount of push back just from asserting the opinion that gender is not innate or assigned at birth is incredible; and it tells me that I touched a very sensitive nerve.
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Hopefully our ranks are growing. Keep up the good writing/working
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Awesome, brilliant analysis.
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Thanks very much.
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I especially like how this post illustrates how people socialized male are socialized to be aggressive and competitive.
In an ideal society, gender would not have a legal definition at all (and would not be on legal contracts). I think that’s the appeal for those who would erase definitions and thus protections, they think they can make it happen this way. There will be backlash, there already is.
But even in an ideal society, men and women will have different experiences to the extent that we are biologically different. The idea that everything must be shared and that boundaries are repressive does not take this into account.
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Part of the problem -is- that socialization. It is so deeply ingrained that a lot of women and men don’t see it, but especially men. Just like it is hard for white people to see and admit to white privilege, it is very hard for men to see and admit to their own male privilege. A lot of these male transgenders don’t seem to see or realize that it is their male privilege and their socialization as boys/men that makes them feel entitled to women’s spaces and women’s bodies, and women’s words and definitions simply because they suddenly claim to be or “feel” that they are women. Also, just like you said, the aggressiveness. All of the violence towards women as a push back for posts like this one is heavily based on male privilege and their own entitlement. They honestly can’t believe that women are pushing back against them and a lot of men’s natural reactions to someone pushing back against their ideas and opinions is, you guess it: violence.
I am digressing, but your comment provoked a lot of thought.
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Nah, you’re not digressing at all. It’s huge for a woman to see how she’s been socialized female, it must be much harder for men to see how they’ve been socialized male. The race analogy is apt, I use that a lot myself. Both are really about caste. Discussions of intersectionality are an attempt to address this.
But women have to deal with a violation imperative that transcends other caste issues, so discussions of intersectionality have a tendency to leave us by the wayside.
I have seen male transgenders say they would love to bear children. This statement can’t be challenged, by definition, since it is medically impossible. But impregnability is quite the double-edged sword. That strikes me as one of the biggest problems with male transgenders in women’s spaces, they shut down discussion of impregnability. They say it discriminates against them. This implies that all you have to do to be a woman is to have a sensitized hole located appropriately, hormones, breasts, and “act female,” and that everything else is secondary or even irrelevant.
This is not consistent with female experience, and is also deeply insulting to women, as it emphasizes what about women is mostly of interest to men, which is why this experiment is bound ultimately to fail.
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To those of us paying attention, they have made it quite clear that the only things about being a woman that are important are the hair, make-up, and “women’s” clothing. Everything else is inconsequential to them and therefore does not matter in the grand scheme of things.
Of course, I left off breasts and vulvas/vaginas because so many of these male transgenders are simply role playing and have no interest whatsoever in hormones or surgeries; but while I left those off for the above stated reasons, I do it while also acknowledging that the sexual aspects of women are what most men, including male transgenders, care about. We are sexualized, even to these men who claim to be women. If that statement weren’t true, the cotton ceiling would not exist.
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A lot of them arrange to have breasts from what I’ve seen. But of course you’re right about how most of them still have intact penises.
I think SRS is overall a bad idea, though, so the less it gets popularized the better. It muddies the debate and it doesn’t always work all that well. Especially for women who get sucked into this madness.
Male sexual fetishizing of lesbians is a big part of what got me interested in radical feminism, when male transgenders started announcing they were lesbians and insisting they were being discriminated against because lesbians didn’t want to date them. Never mind that men have all kinds of fetishes about women they will or won’t date…height, hair, weight, you name it. And nobody ever calls them bigots.
But women are always expected to comply..it’s just backdoor sexual harassment. Ladystick, my hind foot. And the cotton ceiling conferences are/were downright creepy. “Tricking Women Into Rape 101.” But totally legal, of course, unlike hiring a public venue for a conference that excludes men. Or doing anything anywhere ever that excludes men.
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It all comes back to misogyny and male privilege. They feel they are entitled to our bodies at all times and how dare we refuse them. What makes it worse is when women are on board with the whole idea.
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Moving over to the margin again. Yes, it’s always the worst when women side with men against women, and without regards to what really is in our best interests. The socialization, it burns.
The idea that “woman” is a role people play is so insidious. And women are socially pressured to be pleasing to men, so men who decide they are women are kind of Trojan horses. Because since they think they are women, they should be more trustworthy, less dangerous than your average male.
But they aren’t.
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And when these men decide they are women, their opinion of what women should be and what “woman” should mean is, unfortunately, taken more seriously. Why? They are men.
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Yeah, men redefining “woman” to suit their own needs, in yet a new flavor of entitlement.
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I am transgendered.
The earliest thing I can remember, is knowing my body was wrong.
So I know that being transgendered is a very real thing. It isn’t an illusion, and will be something I have to struggle with for the rest of my life.
Social isolation was pretty normal for me growing up.At times I felt like an outsider . So I don’t really understand either gender. I never had the years of gender socialization that most people had. I socialized primarily with the opposite gender, but I was never really accepted, so I stopped doing that too.
So I don’t really understand the other gender. I don’t really understand my own either. I don’t understand how these men could claim to understand. Because even though I spent more time with the people of the opposite sex, I still didn’t understand them.
And I agree. Surgery is not the answer. Not for anyone. Because this world is not about a single person, it’s about many different people, and so how the world sees you is just as important as how you see yourself. It’s too cruel to deny someone’s viewpoint of you. If they see you as female, than to them you will always be female. If they see you are male, than to them you will always be male and there is no way to change this.
It may seem cruel, but that’s how the world is. And there are plenty of people who go through a lot of very bad things anyways so this doesn’t make me or anyone else somehow special.
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This is a really interesting comment. I never thought my body was wrong until my breasts started developing, and that seemed like a terrible joke. I tried to hide them all the time. Went around in sackcloth.
“It’s too cruel to deny someone’s viewpoint of you.” What if their viewpoint is cruel?
I don’t think I’m transgender but I identify with all the rest of this comment.
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[…] of me would really love to sit down with the teenage girl who read my Gender is not “Assigned” at Birth post and decided I was a hateful transphobe who wanted all trans people to disappear. It’s […]
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What do you mean, “my body was wrong”?
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It is exactly this kind of ignorance that has caused me to stop identifying as a feminist. The most oppressed and violated members of our community are TRANSWOMEN. My life is a cakewalk compared to theirs – and so is yours. One out of 30 transwomen will be murdered. Stepping on the throat of an oppressed group to “elevate” our own sense of oppression is SICK. It is also cowardly and cruel. This hypocrisy has got to stop.
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You’re trying to intimidate people into silence. Kindly stop doing that.
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Straight people don’t get to tell gay people how “good” we have it in life. You do not know anything about me as a person, as a gay woman, as a butch lesbian; and you have absolutely NO right to tell me how to act in my own blog. The LGBT community is not YOUR community. It is bigoted, hateful people like you that have made it so difficult for lesbians to be involved in feminism; MEN will ALWAYS come FIRST for you and in today’s obsession with “gender,” that comes in the form or male transgenders and your inflated “facts” about them “vs.” other groups of people.
Let me be clear here, men are violent towards women. This includes male transgenders. You do not get to tell lesbians how they feel and how they will react to that male violence that you seem so intense on pretending doesn’t exist. WOMEN are the most violated members of ANY group or society and, being a butch dyke, I can attest to that violence. Men are the oppressors, not the oppressed.
Now, feel free to create your own blog so that you may talk about the glory of men and how “oppressed” they are, but don’t you dare try to come into my blog ever again with this judgmental, bigoted, made-up nonsense. Consider yourself blocked, Penny.
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Ha! You were -much- nicer to her than I was. I am growing increasingly less and less patient with heterosexual women who call themselves feminists, but insist on supporting men over women and telling women how to act or think.
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I don’t always know whether I’m dealing with a male transgender or a liberal woman who is being led down the fake data garden path, when I see a comment like this. I really had no idea. I just saw someone parroting bullshit and trying to shame the reader into silence. Hell with that.
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I don’t always know either and could only go by what I saw on her Facebook. If I am wrong, then I just made his day, if I am right, then she needs to step back and see what she and her hypocrisy are doing to an already completely marginalized group in favor of men; but either way, that kind of trolling is not cool here on this blog.
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This kind of personal blog can become a good platform for dialog, but, yeah, you have to be tough with the trolls because many excellent commenters are very shy or burned out on being attacked. I like how WordPress has flexible options for comment moderation. It gives you your own private island, compleat with moat, that is still easily accessible by people you don’t know.
You can get a rep for allowing or not allowing different levels and qualities of discourse, which can in turn attract people you’re most likely to get along with.
The Internet is a great tool for community building when the software and mods and owners don’t suck. I don’t know who owns WordPress though.
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I try to allow different points of view as long as they are respectful and not trolling or manplaining; but I have had several male transgenders come in here manspaining and condescending and quite a few straight women and female transgenders come in with guns blazing, calling me names, etc. I usually don’t even bother responding and just send them all to the trash.
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I’m not being hypocritical in any way. I’m being scientifically accurate. You cannot change your sex. Its immutable. Medication and mutilation don’t change anything. That’s a fact.
I have much compassion for people who are not happy in their lives. I understand, very intimately, how people who subscribe to the idea of transgender feel that they are “other”. They don’t like the social and sexual roles which they feel have been dictated to them by society. The majority of them suffer from additional, significant psychological disorders (depression, narcissism, sexual fetishes). They are very unhappy people.
But their unhappiness does not change the scientific fact that biological sex is immutable. It does not change over an individuals lifetime. It cannot be changed. It simply is.
I fully support the right of all men and women to reject social and sex role gendering and to pursue the interests, activities, behaviors, toys, colors, careers, etc. which they prefer as individuals. Men wearing pink and boys playing with Barbie dolls doesn’t change their sex. It doesn’t indicate a birth defect. Its their personal taste, their personality, their preferences.
That doesn’t make them a woman.
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It’s like being besieged by alchemists.
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